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UK Sales (Estimates)

Postby Jay » 07 Jul 2010, 21:09

335,000 - Chasing Lights (#9)
80,000 - Wordshaker (#9)
23,000 - Headlines (#3)

100,000 - If This Is Love (#8)
305,000 - Up (#5)
241,000 - Issues (#4)
246,000 - Just Can't Get Enough (#2)
96,000 - Work (#22)
155,000 - Forever Is Over (#2)
296,000 - Ego (#9)
91,000 - Missing You (#3)

These are my estimates, so it's not 100% accurate - it's not impossible, but you really need to know the right people to find out precise sales for albums and singles that have fallen out of the charts.

Lol that Ego isn't all that far off outselling Up.

Random fact, Chasing Lights stayed in the Top 200 for 70 weeks.
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Re: UK Sales (Estimates)

Postby Jamie » 08 Jul 2010, 00:15

Up should have been a million seller and or been number one for 19 weeks.
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Re: UK Sales (Estimates)

Postby Javi » 08 Jul 2010, 01:17

So Ego is her 2nd best selling single? I knew it had been quite a hit, but never thought it had sold nearly as much as Up.

They've sold 1.8 million records. Not bad.
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Re: UK Sales (Estimates)

Postby Jay » 08 Jul 2010, 01:33

Ego was quite the surprise seller! It'd be weird if their best selling single was a #9, when they've had a #2, #2, #4, #5 and #8.
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Re: UK Sales (Estimates)

Postby Charmingspice5 » 08 Jul 2010, 08:02

Oh Nice! I didn't know Ego had sold that much.
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Re: UK Sales (Estimates)

Postby Stewie » 08 Jul 2010, 11:23

LOL @ If This Is Love and Work being similar, despite having peaked at #8 and #22!
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Re: UK Sales (Estimates)

Postby schizophonic_spice » 08 Jul 2010, 14:00

If Wordshaker had been handled better it could have been something closer to CLs sales

Work aswell could and would have been a top 10 hit had it not been held back so long or if it had just been the fourth single instead of JCGE
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Re: UK Sales (Estimates)

Postby Tiger » 08 Jul 2010, 16:35

If they promoted Work better it would've gone top 10 for sure, but with them doing a tour i guess theres only so much they can do, its a shame that they started to promote it before they got asked to do the comic relief single
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Re: UK Sales (Estimates)

Postby Dom » 08 Jul 2010, 16:59

Work was definitely their own downfall. It was hardly promoted and released too late. I know some people also blame Michael Jackson's death too, but someone (Jay, I think? :D) said it would've charted at #17 had Michael not died.
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Re: UK Sales (Estimates)

Postby Jay » 08 Jul 2010, 19:06

Tiger wrote:If they promoted Work better it would've gone top 10 for sure, but with them doing a tour i guess theres only so much they can do, its a shame that they started to promote it before they got asked to do the comic relief single


They actually did their first performance of Work (introduced as their "new single") the week after the release of Just Can't Get Enough! It had been their plan to release it as the fourth single before Comic Relief got in touch with them though. I think they had performed it at G-A-Y in January 2009, but at the time it wasn't officially confirmed to be a single.

Dom wrote:Work was definitely their own downfall. It was hardly promoted and released too late. I know some people also blame Michael Jackson's death too, but someone (Jay, I think? :D) said it would've charted at #17 had Michael not died.


Indeed, 5 Michael Jackson songs were above them in their week of physical release. I guess #17 isn't that much better, but that's still Top 20. #22 is one of the worst singles peaks for a successful UK girl group, though certainly not one of the worst selling!

If This Is Love sold 14,990 to reach #8, and Work sold almost the same, 14,902, to reach #22. Work would have stood a great chance of Top 15 (#14 at best) with those sales had it been released 3 or 4 weeks earlier.
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Re: UK Sales (Estimates)

Postby addicted2you » 12 Jul 2010, 14:31

Just goes to show the peak positions really do mean fuck all. Issues #4, Up #5 & Ego #9 all out sold a number 2 single (Forever Is Over)

And 4000 copies difference between Work #22 and If This Is Love #8 LOL.
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Re: UK Sales (Estimates)

Postby Jay » 17 Aug 2010, 04:45

Music Week stated this week that Wordshaker has sold 80,259 copies.
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Re: UK Sales (Estimates)

Postby Tiger » 17 Aug 2010, 10:09

Well thats something positive, although now its stopped being sold on itunes, it won't get much more. I'm hoping that these tactics will help headlines
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Re: UK Sales (Estimates)

Postby SpiceFan2008 » 17 Aug 2010, 11:02

^Close to a Gold certification...
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Re: UK Sales (Estimates)

Postby addicted2you » 17 Aug 2010, 14:19

SpiceFan2008 wrote:^Close to a Gold certification...


How do the UK get certifications for albums and singles these days? I think they used to be based on shipments, but with digital releases not sure how that'd work.
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Re: UK Sales (Estimates)

Postby Jay » 17 Aug 2010, 14:30

With singles it's based on sales nowadays, not shipments. So if a download only single sold over 200,000, it's eligible for a certification.

Albums are still based solely on shipments of physical albums, not digital or indeed physical sales. It's unlikely that Wordshaker shipped 100,000, or ever will do.

As we're on the subject, these are the BPI certified awards:

Platinum: Chasing Lights (300,000+ shipments)
Silver: Wordshaker (60,000+ shipments)

Silver: Up (200,000+ sales)
Silver: Issues (200,000+ sales)
Silver: Just Can't Get Enough (200,000+ sales)
Silver: Ego (200,000+ sales)
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Re: UK Sales (Estimates)

Postby Javi » 22 Aug 2010, 21:56

Jay, you should update the first page with the sales of Missing You and Headlines :P
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Re: UK Sales (Estimates)

Postby Jay » 22 Aug 2010, 22:11

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Re: UK Sales (Estimates)

Postby Javi » 22 Aug 2010, 22:20

Jay wrote:Your wish is my command! :D

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Re: UK Sales (Estimates)

Postby AtomicMarcusKitten » 23 Aug 2010, 01:14

I know this is just an estimate, and this is totally random, but i don't get how:

96,000 - Work (#22)

when

84,192 - Ladies Night (#8) - Atomic Kitten

Why is this? Ladies night was in the top 10 for three weeks, and stayed in the charts for 11 weeks. Work stayed in the charts for 11 weeks also. Why is this? Is it to do with time? But then again, Atomic Kitten released 'Ladies Night' in December during the christmas week - I would have thought this would be one of the busiest markets of the year - if not, the biggest! Also, Sugababes' 'Too lost in you' sold 137,381 copies, and it was in the top 10 for two weeks, and lasted 13 weeks in the charts. The reason I've brought this up is because it was released the exact same week as Atomic Kitten's 'Ladies Night'. I know it had 2 weeks extra, but surely this doesn't mean much sales wise when it's out of the top 40. Haha, sorry for going on, but i'm interested :P xD :L
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Re: UK Sales (Estimates)

Postby artziboi » 23 Aug 2010, 01:17

The music world has changed alot in five, six years. So it makes a difference yes.
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Re: UK Sales (Estimates)

Postby Jamie » 23 Aug 2010, 01:27

Atomic Kitten were around in an era where singles were doing so dreadfully, regardless of the fact that there were two CD's and a cassette to help. It was the start of the record companies starting to think about releasing digitally too to claw the money/sales back, thus why Work sold more but got a significantly lower position. Sales are back up because of the increase in legal digital downloading.
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Re: UK Sales (Estimates)

Postby Jay » 23 Aug 2010, 01:52

Also Sugababes would have had better back catalogue sales than Atomic Kitten, especially with the Singles Collection released in 2006. Could easily add a few thousand to whatever their original 2004 time total was.
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Re: UK Sales (Estimates)

Postby AtomicMarcusKitten » 23 Aug 2010, 01:55

Thankyou both of you! :D it makes sense now, and I did hear that 2003/2004 were very bad for sales. :3
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Re: UK Sales (Estimates)

Postby Javi » 01 Oct 2010, 16:57

Another update on this thread would be nice :P
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