VivaMGMVE wrote:Jay wrote:PeruvianSpice wrote:Could u do a comparisson of how much they sold prior to this update (maybe up to 2007) and then with this numbers? To see how much they've increased
I'm not sure if there's much data for up to 2007 but I've happened to stumble upon the fact that 'Spice Up Your Life' was on 817,435 on 18th November 2007! It's on 910,000 now (including streaming data) so that's a very nice increase for it! It was on 830,854 in June 2009 and 850,434 in August 2012. So an increase of 60,000 in just under 5 years.
Here's the leap in sales from what some of their singles were on by the end of the 90s decade, compared to the totals they're on now:
915,000 to 961,000 (= +46,000) - Say You'll Be There [not including streams]
1,070,000 to 1,140,000 (= +70,000) - 2 Become 1 [not including streams]
660,000 to 730,000 (= +70,000) - Mama/Who Do You Think You Are [inc. streaming units]
805,000 to 910,000 (= +105,000) - Spice Up Your Life [inc. streaming units]
655,000 to 690,000 (= +35,000) - Too Much [inc. streaming units]
331,000 to 420,200 (= +89,200) - Stop [inc. streaming units]
625,000 to 700,000 (= +75,000) - Viva Forever [inc. streaming units]
835,000 to 900,000 (= +65,000) - Goodbye [inc. streaming units]
Holler/Let Love Lead The Way was released in 2000, by the end of that year it was on 212,000 that that was only a little over 2 months of sales. The increase to 260,000 by 2015 means it sold 48,000 from 2001 to 2015.
Wannabe is a rather tricky one to compare, for reasons which are really complicated to explain. I'll attempt it, lol. :') [Argh I ended up writing so much, I'll forgive people for not reading this post lol ]
In about 2007, Official Charts Company decided that the total sales data they had for singles released in 1994, 1995 and 1996 had been overestimated. Back in 94-96, chart sales were worked out based on data provided to them by record stores... but in '94 only 75% of stores could transmit this data. Therefore OCC used a formula based on this sample size, to work out how much singles might have sold across every store including the ones that didn't submit data. By 1996 the sample size of stores submitting data had increased to 90%+. As of 1997 it increased to 99%, so therefore the charts became a lot more accurate than ever before.
So, although back in the 90s Wannabe was said to have sold 1,269,000 copies... by 2007 it was decided by the OCC that they should only use the sales data that had been submitted to them by stores at the time, rather than the figures they worked out from their sample size. So 'Wannabe' was reduced to around 1,180,000 as its 90s total instead.
Throughout the years the OCC have been very inconsistent in what sales they based an updated Wannabe total on. Sometimes they went by the "reported sales only" figure, but on other occasions they've gone with the higher "reported sales + estimated sales based on sample size" sales. For instance, in August 2012 a total sales figure of 1,242,521 was given for Wannabe, suggesting they were basing these total sales of the 1,180,000 in the 90s figure - so an increase of 60,000 downloads. Then in December 2014 they stated 1,280,000 - therefore an increase of 100,000 since the downgraded 90s total. On the other hand, they reported 1,340,000 in June 2013, suggesting they were going off of the higher total instead - indicating a 71,000 download increase in downloads. Most recently they've stated 1,380,000 in March 2017 - 111,000 increase in downloads.
So in summary it's gone like this:
1,180,000 to 1,242,521 = 60,000 downloads increase (lower 90s figure to August 2012)
1,269,000 to 1,340,000 = 71,000 downloads increase (higher 90s figure to June 2013)
1,180,000 to 1,280,000 = 100,000 downloads increase (lower 90s figure to December 2014)
1,269,000 to 1,380,000 = 111,000 downloads increase (higher 90s figure to March 2017)
Whichever overall total is taken to be correct, I think it seems fair enough to assume it's sold ~110,000+ downloads in the digital era. It'd be very interesting to find out how much data from streaming units would add to their running total! I have no idea what that's likely to be unfortunately, I don't know how many times it's been streamed in the UK from 2014 to now (2014 is when streaming units started to get added). Wouldn't surprise me if it was well over 100,000 additional sales from streaming units though.
Download sales certainly build up in the background. If Wannabe has actually sold 51,000 downloads from August 2012 to March 2017 as the above figures suggest, it'd have sold 215 downloads on average per week, which is feasible. Streaming units will definitely be contributing a lot more than that to Wannabe each week.
I'll stop writing now...!
You are a goddammed treasure, Jay. Thanks for such interesting and thoughtful posts. Love it.
Jay, thanks so much for taking your time and writing this! It's really interesting and helpful
I'm Happy seeing those figures to "Goodbye", "Too Much"... and actually all of their singles