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Dumpster Baby Story - With a twist!

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Dumpster Baby Story - With a twist!

Postby Brandamn » 21 Oct 2010, 03:03

This is a crazy, almost unbelievable story that happened here in Calgary yesterday. A man was walking his dog and heard a baby crying in a dumpster. The man rescued the baby, even wrapping the baby in his own shirt to keep it warm, and he called 911. Today, the good samaritan discovered that the baby was actually his own son!

Here's an article from the Calgary Sun newspaper (not affiliated with England's The Sun):

One of the men who rescued a baby left to die in the dumpster was the boy’s father and he’s determined to raise the infant.

The 29-year-old woman, who allegedly stuffed her newborn in a garbage bag, didn’t know she was pregnant until giving birth, and neither did the baby’s father, who leapt into the dumpster to save him.

“My first thought seeing the baby there was disgust,” said the 28-year-old man, who can’t be named to protect the infant’s identity.

“I just thought ‘we’ve got to get that baby out of here’ and I didn’t know CPR.”

The man said there was no way to tell his girlfriend of four years was pregnant because she’s heavy set and always had “a bit of a belly.”

Hours before he found his son in a dumpster in a condo complex at 501 40 Ave. N.W., his girlfriend complained of having cramps and diarrhea.

He went to work, he said “but I had a bad feeling, that I had to go home” and came back to the condo for lunch.

After they were alerted by a woman passerby, another neighbour said he helped the unsuspecting dad tear open the garbage bag to free the infant, who was suffering from hypothermia but is now in stable condition in hospital.

The woman is facing charges of attempted murder, child abandonment and failing to provide the necessities of life.

The man only found out the baby he’d helped rescue was his son when told by police on Tuesday night.

“It was the most shocking thing I’ve ever encountered in my life — to find that out from police is not something I’d ever expected to happen,” he said.

“I’m not happy with her but I’m not angry, either — I want to make sure she gets the help she needs.”

As he met with provincial Children and Youth Services officials about the case, the man also said he’ll “do everything I can to get the baby back, she wants it as well.”

The father said he has been in contact with social services officials and told he will be able to see his son in much different conditions than their first traumatic meeting.

The accused mom’s difficult childhood and a resulting reluctance to have her own children “might have had something to do with what she did.” said the new dad’s brother, who lives with the couple.

“But this is an accepting household — if the right thing had been done from the beginning there’d be no problem,” added the infant’s surprised uncle.

Staff Sgt. Leah Barber of the police child abuse unit said there’s good reason to charge the woman with attempted murder.

“The baby was put in there with no expectation to survive...where it couldn’t be found,” said Barber.

“There’s always other options — obviously if something like this were to happen, 911 would be the first call I’d make.”

The police officer said it’s the first time she’s investigated such a surprise pregnancy since she joined the unit 2-1/2 years ago.

“I know it does happen — there are TV shows about it,” said Barber, adding the mother is undergoing a pyschiatric examination and should be released from hospital sometime Wednesday.

“It’s hard to fathom...it’s a sad case,”

Barber said if passersby hadn’t noticed the crying baby in the dumpster as soon as they did, the baby wouldn’t have survived.

“It’s incredibly lucky,” she said.

It’s believed the baby was born within two hours of its discovery.

The force has received numerous calls from people wanting to adopt the baby.

But for now, police are discussing the infant’s custody with Alberta Children and Youth Services.

Bringing in safe houses for young, expectant moms could prevent babies from being abandoned in the future, said Health Minister Gene Zwozdesky adding he would be open to creating some safe houses for new moms to turn to.

“It’s very unfortunate anytime a situation like that happens,” he told reporters at the legislature Wednesday.

“I think young women who feel it necessary to abandon their newly born child frequently don’t know where to go.”
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Re: Dumpster Baby Story - With a twist!

Postby FiaSpice » 21 Oct 2010, 05:19

Wow, just wow. So she delivered the baby alone? Because no hospital would have discharged a 2 hour-old baby. That's pretty incredible that it's the dad that found his own son. Sound like it could be on TLC's "I didn't knew I was pregnant".
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Postby Brandamn » 21 Oct 2010, 05:56

Yeah, it's really an odd story. I've heard about these "surprise" births, but this was just another "dumpster baby" story until it came out that the rescuer was the father. She definitely had the baby at home. I believe it was in one of the bedrooms in their apartment.

In a strange way, I feel for the mother. At first I was disgusted and angry with the mother for tossing the baby in a dumpster, but I gave some thought into what her experience must have been, and all I can imagine is sheer panic. To have a baby seemingly appear out of no where, that's... well let's just say that's a situation all on its own. I don't condone or endorse what she did in any way, obviously. I'm just trying to put myself in her shoes for a minute, but the part I get stuck on is how she felt that throwing the baby in the trash was the best option. I can only imagine that remorse, regret and guilt was consuming her after the fact, so I wonder how she was able to function once she'd done it.

But I definitely feel for the father. He is in one hell of a situation right now. One minute he's walking his dog, the next minute he's a local hero. A couple hours pass by and he's the husband/boyfriend of a crazy person. It's very honourable for him to step up to the plate and try and take custody of his son, but I'm wondering if it's a good idea for the child to have a relationship with these people. If either of them get to keep their son, at some point in the child's life, he is going to be told that his mother threw him in the garbage, and I can only imagine the devastation information like that could cause.
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Postby kenziekinz09 » 21 Oct 2010, 06:08

I don't know about other places, but in my state if you have an unwanted baby you can take it to a police station or fire station and they will take the baby. No questions asked. Does that not exist other places?
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Re: Dumpster Baby Story - With a twist!

Postby Brandamn » 21 Oct 2010, 06:10

kenziekinz09 wrote:I don't know about other places, but in my state if you have an unwanted baby you can take it to a police station or fire station and they will take the baby. No questions asked. Does that not exist other places?


There currently isn't anything like that in Canada (except for in Vancouver), but this situation has actually brought that conversation to the table. Right now, there's only a place where young mothers can drop their baby off, but only temporarily.
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Postby FiaSpice » 21 Oct 2010, 21:19

Brandamn wrote:
kenziekinz09 wrote:I don't know about other places, but in my state if you have an unwanted baby you can take it to a police station or fire station and they will take the baby. No questions asked. Does that not exist other places?


There currently isn't anything like that in Canada (except for in Vancouver), but this situation has actually brought that conversation to the table. Right now, there's only a place where young mothers can drop their baby off, but only temporarily.

I tought you could surrender them in an hospital or something. I guess it's just in the old time, where girls were ot married and had kids. I really think those surrender place should exist.
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Postby [gb] » 21 Oct 2010, 22:45

^Yeah they do in a few states in the U.S. and more and more states are passing safe haven laws and I think it's a good thing. Hopefully everywhere will have it soon in most countries at least.
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Postby FiaSpice » 21 Oct 2010, 23:14

^^^I was talking about Canada tough.
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Postby kenziekinz09 » 22 Oct 2010, 02:36

I mean, it doesn't solve everything. We've had a couple of cases where babies were found in dumpsters, one woman put her baby in the microwave :'( I just think it's great that it's an option for the sane mothers-to-be.
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Postby [gb] » 22 Oct 2010, 02:48

FiaSpice wrote:^^^I was talking about Canada tough.


I know I was just saying they should expand it in U.S. and Canada and anywhere else I think it'd avoid alot of this stuff :)
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Postby FiaSpice » 22 Oct 2010, 03:37

[gb] wrote:
FiaSpice wrote:^^^I was talking about Canada tough.


I know I was just saying they should expand it in U.S. and Canada and anywhere else I think it'd avoid alot of this stuff :)

Ok I didn't understood that way :) Might be the 4 hours of sleep last night.
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Postby [gb] » 22 Oct 2010, 03:39

^ewww that's brutal hope you sleep better tonight :hug:
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Postby FiaSpice » 22 Oct 2010, 04:36

[gb] wrote:^ewww that's brutal hope you sleep better tonight :hug:

Yeah I don't have to wake up at 6:30 for an interview (after faling asleep past 1 am and waking up 1-2 times) tomorow
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Postby Brandamn » 22 Oct 2010, 06:07

Today on the radio, they were making fun of the baby, calling him names with the initials BFI (which is the name of a waste management company here). I thought that was a little inappropriate, especially on the day immediately following one of the biggest Anti-Bullying demonstrations I've ever seen.
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Postby Alastair » 22 Oct 2010, 08:45

How could any mother do that :dizzy:
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Postby FiaSpice » 22 Oct 2010, 16:59

Brandamn wrote:Today on the radio, they were making fun of the baby, calling him names with the initials BFI (which is the name of a waste management company here). I thought that was a little inappropriate, especially on the day immediately following one of the biggest Anti-Bullying demonstrations I've ever seen.

Wow that's pretty supid. Was that the kin of "funny" show on radio. Sometimes they really do get stupid like that.
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Postby dre » 22 Oct 2010, 21:38

Brandamn wrote:Today on the radio, they were making fun of the baby, calling him names with the initials BFI (which is the name of a waste management company here). I thought that was a little inappropriate, especially on the day immediately following one of the biggest Anti-Bullying demonstrations I've ever seen.

God that's tactless.

Even trying to put myself in the mother's shoes, I still can't comprehend how even panic could lead her to attempt to kill an innocent child, because to do that to a newborn is to hope for it to die and "solve" the problem. Even the thought of putting a baby in a trash bag, let alone tossing it into a dumpster makes me sick. I hope she gets good help though, because I don't see how a mentally sound person could do such a thing. Or maybe I'm placing too much faith in the human condition.
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Re: Dumpster Baby Story - With a twist!

Postby Brandamn » 22 Oct 2010, 23:18

dre wrote:
Brandamn wrote:Today on the radio, they were making fun of the baby, calling him names with the initials BFI (which is the name of a waste management company here). I thought that was a little inappropriate, especially on the day immediately following one of the biggest Anti-Bullying demonstrations I've ever seen.

God that's tactless.

Even trying to put myself in the mother's shoes, I still can't comprehend how even panic could lead her to attempt to kill an innocent child, because to do that to a newborn is to hope for it to die and "solve" the problem. Even the thought of putting a baby in a trash bag, let alone tossing it into a dumpster makes me sick. I hope she gets good help though, because I don't see how a mentally sound person could do such a thing. Or maybe I'm placing too much faith in the human condition.


She probably justified it because, by putting the baby in the garbage (God, I have such a hard time typing those words) she's not killing the baby, the baby is just dying because it's unable to survive. While I think any sane person, and any judge, jury and courtroom would agree that it is murder, or at the very least manslaughter, it's probably how her coward mind rationalized the situation for herself.

I can imagine that if you were to give birth to a baby you didn't know you were carrying, your mind would be in an intense state of confusion, so I can understand that she would make some pretty rash decisions, and I can understand the desperate need to rid yourself of the child in a hurry. And I can understand that the situation becomes exponentially harder when you're alone in your home at the time. But even if I were to "forget" the part where she puts the baby in a garbage bag and throws or places the baby into the dumpster, I can not wrap my mind around the part where she walks away and tries to forget about it all.

I'd like to know why she didn't call anybody. Whether it be 911, or her boyfriend/husband or a friend or her parents. Actually, I'd really just be interested to know her thought process during the entire episode.
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Postby Jenn » 23 Oct 2010, 17:26

kenziekinz09 wrote:one woman put her baby in the microwave :'(

WHAT??? when/where was this??? :dizzy: sometimes i really wonder about humanity

also what i don't get is, in general, how can someone be pregnant for nine months and never once be suspicious that she might be pregnant? i know there's a TV show and there are lots of stories, but i just don't get it. i'm not being judgmental here, i'm just not understanding it. even if a woman is heavy and always has a belly, in the inside physically shouldn't she feel different? i mean, there's a whole fetus in there. maybe i'm not getting this because i've never been pregnant...
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Re: Dumpster Baby Story - With a twist!

Postby kenziekinz09 » 24 Oct 2010, 16:50

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,290110,00.html

Not the one I was talking about, but very similar.
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